J.K. Rowling Dishes on Dateline NBC

July 30th, 2007

First, the spoiler-free tidbit: while being interviewed by Meredith Vieira, Rowling began to talk tentatively about her religious beliefs. But she got no further than saying that her beliefs about death and the afterlife, and her struggle to believe, are imprinted all over Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows—then Vieira whisked her away to the next, much less interesting question. I wanted to hear about her struggles to believe, because that’s something I can respect. If she’s struggling, then she’s not merely accepting a bland, watered-down version of Christianity. Not that her professions one way or the other necessarily affect how I read her books (she has previously stated that she’s a Christian), but I am curious about her faith-struggles, as they probably reveal her deepest values.

Okay, now for the spoiler-ish material. SPOILERS! (Fortunately, I can’t accompany them with the annoying little dllllling! that prefaced the spoilers on Dateline.)

Most significant: Rowling revealed the entirety of the original last line of the book, which was going to be something along the lines of “Only those whom he loved could still see his lightning scar.” (Remember hearing her say how the last word of the book was going to be “scar”? Well, there it is in context.) Argh! Why didn’t she keep it that way? That’s so much better than “All was well.” Nothing is ever completely well, not on this earth. Rowling said in the interview that she changed the line because she wanted to emphasize that, for Harry, the battle was over. I think we could have picked up on that on our own . . . Of course, I’m fascinated by Harry’s scar in the last few chapters and how it is and isn’t like the scars of Jesus’ wounds. When Harry is in King’s Cross (whack! whack! goes the symbolism) Station, in a sort of afterlife-limbo, his scar is gone. Unlike Jesus, Harry’s “glorified” body does not include the signs of his sacrifice. After his “resurrection,” however, the scar is back. I like the original last line because, while Jesus’ friends (well, at least Thomas) only recognized him by his scars, it’s only Harry’s friends who truly see his scar, and thus, him. It kind of dances around the Christ-figure stuff, while still remaining distinct (as it should).

Also interesting: Rowling’s pre-publication comments that one character who was going to die had received a reprieve, and two more characters had died instead, led me to believe that all three of these deaths or not-deaths occurred within Deathly Hallows. Nope. It was Mr. Weasley who was saved from the chopping block, and that was back in Order of the Phoenix, when he ended up almost dying. Rowling said that, given the lack of good father figures in the books, she couldn’t bring herself to kill the best father among her characters. Of course, so much in the Harry Potter books revolves around parentage. As soon as Lupin asked Harry to be godfather to baby Teddy, I knew that both he and Tonks were doomed. Rowling does like symmetry, and it was obvious that Teddy was destined to be a parallel to Harry (though growing up in a happier time). Interestingly, given that he is presumably raised by his grandmother, he could also be a kind of parallel to Neville.

To others who watched the Dateline interview: what struck you as most memorable?

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  • 1. Steve  |  August 7th, 2007 at 5:54 pm

    Somebody told me that she’s agnostic or even athiest, and that this is apparent in the novels — one of the many ways they are different from the stuff by C. S. Lewis. But, then again, I can’t remember who told me that, and the only words I’ve ever read that were written by Rowling is the cover of her books as I walk past them in the bookstore. If she ever decides to write hardboiled detective novels, let me know.

    As for what she says on TV, hmm… how can you trust it? Is anyone on American TV allowed to admit that they are an athiest?

  • 2. theottery  |  August 7th, 2007 at 6:41 pm

    Um, Christopher Hitchens, anyone?

  • 3. K  |  August 8th, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    I didn’t catch the Dateline interview, since I’m operating in a different timezone and country right now! But I have finally read book 7, and not auf Deutsch, either. The translated version doesn’t come out until October. So the whole release date was pretty low-key here in Berlin.

    And I have to say I wasn’t entirely pleased with that last chapter… didn’t we already know how everything turns out from what is suggested in the book already?

    The only purpose I saw to the epilogue was being able to see the reconciliation between Harry and Snape through the naming of Harry’s youngest son. Still, “Albus Severus” is too much for any child to endure through their school years!

    The “all was well” ending also didn’t jibe with the little discussion Rowling offers on Slytherin and the methods of deciding school houses (Dumbledore also comments on this, right? That the divisions were perhaps made too quickly among the student body?). We get to see Draco and his son as well on the train platform… obviously there are still tensions and old rivalries at play in the wizarding world. Nor does the last sentence have quite the weight and metaphysical impact of Julian of Norwich’s words:

    “…that all shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.”

    That’s enough to give me shivers!

  • 4. Dormouse  |  August 10th, 2007 at 10:53 am

    Of course you can admit you’re an atheist on American tv. This isn’t a theocracy yet. ::eyeroll::

    It would be ill-advised for politicians to do so, but for your average celebrity or personality, admitting to atheism or agnosticism is probably less damaging to their fanbase than being a Scientologist or a member of a highly conservative fundamentalist church.

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