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	<title>Comments on: Turkish Water Torture</title>
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		<title>By: theottery</title>
		<link>http://www.theottery.com/2006/09/turkish-water-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>theottery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I probably would have waited, actually, in any country other than the U.S. (English-speaking or not), simply because when in an unfamiliar culture, I tend to assume that whatever happens is what is supposed to happen. Of course, the less familiar the culture is, the more I assume. 

Besides, we had spoken to people behind the desk when we came in, and they spoke very good English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably would have waited, actually, in any country other than the U.S. (English-speaking or not), simply because when in an unfamiliar culture, I tend to assume that whatever happens is what is supposed to happen. Of course, the less familiar the culture is, the more I assume. </p>
<p>Besides, we had spoken to people behind the desk when we came in, and they spoke very good English.</p>
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		<title>By: Possum</title>
		<link>http://www.theottery.com/2006/09/turkish-water-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Possum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if you had been in a bath house in an English speaking country, my guess is you wouldn&#039;t have waited. You would have insisted on talking with the people who worked there. Probably you would have talked with them right when you arrived, before the process even began.

In a foreign country, we try to rely on signs. We are even more attentive to signs than we would be in our own country. A social person in his/her own country often ignores the sign entirely and focuses on the actual human being behind the desk. The classic scene in many a movie involves such a social person doing precisely that and the anti-social desk clerk pointing to the sign. But in a foreign country, the opposite often happens. We look for signs everywhere, any piece of technology to help us navigate so that we don&#039;t actually have to subject ourselves to the embarassing difficulty of talking.  But as we all know,  whether from Biblical hermenuetics or from philosophy (from Plato to Locke to Derrida) or simply from ordinary experience, signs often don&#039;t mean exactly what we think they mean. 

And now, I have to try to order a plane ticket on-line, which I hate, because talking to an actual travel agent is so much easier and sensible than the cyber-morass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if you had been in a bath house in an English speaking country, my guess is you wouldn&#8217;t have waited. You would have insisted on talking with the people who worked there. Probably you would have talked with them right when you arrived, before the process even began.</p>
<p>In a foreign country, we try to rely on signs. We are even more attentive to signs than we would be in our own country. A social person in his/her own country often ignores the sign entirely and focuses on the actual human being behind the desk. The classic scene in many a movie involves such a social person doing precisely that and the anti-social desk clerk pointing to the sign. But in a foreign country, the opposite often happens. We look for signs everywhere, any piece of technology to help us navigate so that we don&#8217;t actually have to subject ourselves to the embarassing difficulty of talking.  But as we all know,  whether from Biblical hermenuetics or from philosophy (from Plato to Locke to Derrida) or simply from ordinary experience, signs often don&#8217;t mean exactly what we think they mean. </p>
<p>And now, I have to try to order a plane ticket on-line, which I hate, because talking to an actual travel agent is so much easier and sensible than the cyber-morass.</p>
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		<title>By: theottery</title>
		<link>http://www.theottery.com/2006/09/turkish-water-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>theottery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Language wasn&#039;t the problem. All the signs were in English, since the baths are primarily a tourist trap. The problem was in differing interpretations of the word &quot;massage.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Language wasn&#8217;t the problem. All the signs were in English, since the baths are primarily a tourist trap. The problem was in differing interpretations of the word &#8220;massage.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Possum</title>
		<link>http://www.theottery.com/2006/09/turkish-water-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Possum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 01:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...or go with someone who speaks Turkish?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;or go with someone who speaks Turkish?</p>
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